QuiBids.com User Files Class Action Lawsuit Complaint Against QuiBids Over QuiBid.com Auction System.
A class action lawsuit has been filed against QuiBids, LLC (“QuiBids” or “QuiBids.com” or “Defendant”) in the United States District Court for the Western District of Oklahoma (styled Lawrence A. Locke v. Quibids, LLC, Class Action Case No. 5:10-cv-01277-W), alleging, among other things, that Quibids’s website Quibids.com allows consumers to buy ‘bids” for use in on-line auctions of consumer products with the promise of obtaining those consumer products at significant discounts from retail prices but that under the auction system set up by QuiBids, most consumers using the site purportedly will not win the majority of auctions for low ticket items on which they bid and will allegedly rarely win auctions of high ticket items and therefore given that each losing attempt to win an action costs the consumer money (because each bid costs $.60) QuiBids.com functionally constitutes something allegedly more like a gambling website than an auction website since the majority of customers who use QuiBids.com will reportedly lose money doing so, that is, the total amount they spend between purchasing bids, paying for items in auctions they win and paying for any items they purchase using the QuiBids.com “Buy It Now” feature will purportedly exceed the retail value as stated on QuiBids.com of the items they receive, if any, according to the QuiBids.com class action lawsuit complaint.
The QuiBids.com class action lawsuit complaint is reportedly brought on behalf of the following putative classes of persons, unless otherwise excluded:
All persons in the United States (the 50 states, Washington, D.C., Guam, the U.S. Virgin Islands and Puerto Rico) who spent more money on QuiBids.com than the value of the goods they received, if any – persons for whom the total amount spent on purchasing bids, on paying for any auction items they won (including shipping costs) and paying for items using the “Buy It Now” feature (including shipping costs) exceeded the retail values as listed on QuiBids.com of the goods they received (the “Class”).
For more information on the QuiBids.com auction class action lawsuit, read the QuiBids.com class action lawsuit complaint.
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I had the same thing happen to me
So happy to see them held accountable! (One could gag listening to them spew fantasy-lased bull dung about wanting to be “ethical”, and how it’s just “play to pay” fun, having a good time, no shills or fraud etc…. and this is repeated by the BBB of Oklahoma, no less!)
Not only are they deceptive, and sickening with their “well you can always buy it at retail” (rather than at big discounts on Amazon, eBay, etc.) but they also harvest user account information, which for them is just one more level of customer wallets/purses to rape in the name of their “fun business model”. Hope their business practices are looked at long and hard, and beyond the one specific fraud named in the suit! (Look at other sites, legal and consumer, to see the breadth of their sleeziness!)
This is definately a scam. Every time I was involved in a aution the price soared while the same items sold for 1/4th the amount in four other auctions occurring at the same time. They must have a program running with fake customers or employees who act as customers! They could make great money by doing this honestly however they are a GREEDY and UNETHICAL group. It is a great idea and could be fun for the consumer and profitable for them if they were not taking advantage. How HATEFUL!! Does anyone know how to go about participating in the class action suit?
These people are auctioning using the same format as Ebay, but the catch is you have to purchase in advance bid packages (@.60) a bid. The same method ebay uses, but does not charge .60 a bid. It would appear fairly obvious that the amont of bidding going on for any particular item far exceeds the actual retail price. The method they use who recieves the item is questionable. One would assume they keep track of the money you spend bidding, or losing trying to win an item and favor those who have spent the most. However they do it is there little secret, and the truth will never be exposed unless they are taken to court and put out of business. I am sticking with Ebay from now on
Does anyone know if the legal rule of having 2 business days to cancel (or whatever it is) applies to signing up with Quibids? I registered today hoping to bid on headphones. Once I gave my payment info (thinking it w/b used for payments and ship costs) I was instantly sent a message thanking me for purchasing $60 worth of bids! There’s no way I would have bid that many times!
I contacted them thru their email system and was told that was the only way a new member can join! What’s up with that? I see they have a ‘newcomer’ rate of $27 – but I was never even given a choice!
I haven’t even participated in this site but am out 60 bucks! Can I join this class action suit?
I’m on hold with my credit card company right now, disputing this damn $60 charge they threw on my card. I have so far ended up paying well over $100 for a mouse that’s worth $20 (with free shipping) all over the net.
We should realize the jokers on here putting down the people who’ve been scammed are either employees of this company or deluded.
SAME THING HAPPENED TO ME
ANY RESOLUTION
I FILED A COMPLAINT WITH BETTER BUSINESS BUREAU
THANKS
SANDY
Same $60 charge happened to me. I immediately contacted credit card company and quibids. Had charge refused and quibids promised complete refund and cancelled my membership (thank God). Their charge arrived even before their confirmation email to activate my account. Anyone that is that desperate for money needs to be distrusted. I wish this class action lawsuit the very best success!
Contact your credit card company and dispute the charge, the defrauded me out of $83.00 but I just got it refunded by Visa today. I also found out I am not the only one having to do this.
THIS IS A SCAM!! STAY AWAY FROM QUIBIDS!!!
I have been tracking Sony Bravia TV Auction for over 24 hours. #982264319. During that time they left their clock on 20 seconds, never dropping it to draw in hundreds of bids. After 24 hours they dropped to 10 seconds for under 5 minutes and then back to 20 seconds. The action finally closed, but the clock was unstable, and the winning bid was taken not at the 1-2-or even 3 second count down, but almost 9-8 seconds prior to getting to 0. I seen many of the same bidders I have seen in high end auctions drive the cost up-I believe them to either be Shrill Bidders or Auction Bots. Some of the bidders had already reached their auction limits, set by Quibids, but were bidding in this Auction. Explain this. They should not have even been able to enter this Auction. The same group of bidders that attacked me in the beginning when I first started Quibids were swooping down and pushing the price up and up and then they would disappear and re-appear when the action numbers dropped. Definitely a Scam Site and should be closed down and all the monies they crooked un-suspecting bidders should be reinbursed.
I agree with alot of you about Quibids beening setup. I played big ticket item for eight to ten hours, seeing the same user names at the beginning, the middle, and at the end of bidding. They seem to convenience start as another stop bidding. During the same bidding there were user name who only bidded after me while the blue box shows I was winning. Of course this go on for hours exhausting my bids till I have to buy it now. Ali so the clock run so slow from 10 to 0 until I complainted to customer service while actively bidding. The brush me off, saying there nothing wrong with there clock counting 10 to 0 just about every user name currently winning. I told them that I didn’t have 24 hours to winning a prize I which I had a blue box for currently winning.
My son has had some amazing success with Quibids. A 2000 dollar television for 171 bucks. Thirty dollars for a 300 dollar play station. Thirty or forty dollars for a 400 dollar surround sound system. I happen to be very frugal with my money and it takes alot to sell me on something. However, I have started to look into this site and I think it is a good way to make money. I don’t care about t.v.’s, laptops, cameras, phones or any other material item. What I care about is building up the old bank account and my son has shown me that it is possible. OTHERWISE, they wouldn’t be putting limits on the number of big ticket items you can win! This is like anything else out there, if you don’t like it don’t participate. How complicated is that. Don’t like a television program then turn the channel and quit spoiling everyone elses’ fun! Don’t like casinos – then don’t go into them. Don’t like bars where patrons are aloud to smoke – then find one that doesn’t allow smoking!
Quit lying bitch.
She’s not lying idiot. All these people bitching are just bitching because they don’t win. I’ve won a number of items on their site, some for as little as a few cents.
People don’t read up on it, simply go throw their money at auctions and THINK they’re going to automatically be a winner. Well duh! Numerous other people are competing for the same item.
You have to be smart about the way you do it.
If you expect to win the big ticket items, which have more people and more bidders competing for them, your chances are slim. The site even tells you to start small.
Start with gift cards, if you don’t win, your bids count against the price of the giftcard, so you can still purchase it. Set limits on how many bids you’re willing to spend on a “chance” to win an item.
Anyone blaming the company for their losing money simply isn’t doing their homework.
Exactly, many(not all) of the people here are simply complaining about not wining. You ALWAYS read every bit of information if you know that the site is going to nickel-and-dime you for participation. If you don’t like it, don’t even bother trying it. Some of these things take time, planning, and effort.
Myself? I will never spend time on these sites. Even if you can earn money or cut costs by bidding and winning, I don’t have the dedication, but I know some people do.
So please everyone, stop bitching about what you didn’t get, and calling people liars like 1st graders.
Hell, when compared to spending money on useless shit like cigarettes or most alcohol, at least there’s a chance of getting something worthwhile when spending money on bids.
Okay, smuckatellies, let’s hear from an ex employee of a scam artist. I sold absolute crap on the radio that wasn’t worth the phone calls people made to bid on the items. Yeah, you’re going to get pedantic and start saying, it’s not the same, blah blah blah…
just shut the f up.
There were a myriad ways to scam people out of money, with fake bidders, selling stolen items, selling the same thing multiple times and then telling people who’d paid it would take a month to get their money back and conveniently forgetting to process the refund.
How do I know this is the same thing, you may ask? Because I know that if it walks like a duck, talks like a duck, I’m not going to compare it to chicken. Or gambling. Or going to a smoky bar.
I also know about having callers contact the DJ on the air and tell them how great my last purchase was. So for the whack jobs who’re on this forum from Quibids, I got your number, too.
If you’re a newcomer to this site, it’s most likely because you got taken advantage of. Slimy salesmen and con artists will always have fine print to justify how they screw over the uninitiated. I’m sorry to see so many of us are out there, and I can’t believe I got so soft I ignored the warning signs. A big glaring Better Business Bureau sign means either someone’s paid to be a member or they’re good with copying and pasting icons on a web page, that’s all.
I’ve watched the bots on the bidding, I’ve experienced the back door scams they have running too. If you think you’ve found a secret way of getting an extra 1000 bids, think twice. Their webmasters are black hat hacksers. You’re just going to get taken for more money that way.
This is a sucka free zone, Quibids. Stop getting on here saying “you shoulda known betta”. A holes.
Anyone defending this site is obviously working for it, I think everyone who would attempt to use this site has a decent understanding of how an auction works, or else they would not try to use the service. To redirect attention from the actual scams being perpetuated by this website to “complaining” about losing bids is a clear indicator that James and Rob either do not understand the problem that people are having (which is usually not losing bids, but has to do with the shady business practices associated with the site and corroborated with multiple sources, including items being out of stock, auction bots, etc.), which causes me to seriously question their intelligence, or they work for the website itself. Stop insulting honest people and realize the error of your ways, and that what goes around comes around, as sure as the world keeps turning. It won’t be long before this website and others like it are brought to the attention of government regulators, unfortunately there is quite a bit of attention focused on other, more imminent dangers to America, which I’m sure everyone knows about. This allows scams to operate with more freedom than they otherwise would in a more stable economy and with a more capable government. These scams are only adding to the downslide of the economy and the people running them don’t even realize what they are really doing. Their actions are contributing to the evil in the world as we know it today. I hope this suits is able to reimburse everyone who has been taken advantage of and leads to financial ruin for the website operators, because that is what they deserve. Don’t tell me they deserve some credit for taking initiative and exploring (nee exploiting) a market that hasn’t received much attention as of yet, either. That’s not going to convince me. Also, Rob your comment doesn’t make any sense to me. The point of an auction site is to win items, and so it seems you’re implying that you’re flipping items that you and your son win from the site, which in turn means that you are making money off of the site itself. I’m not saying its impossible, but that you would be successful in this kind of venture seems unlikely, to say the least, especially considering how difficult it is to win the high-price items. You also make no mention of the many people who are losing money every time your son wins, sometimes its a great deal of money, and your lack of sympathy disturbs me. I think that maybe you are a sociopath. Also, comparing this website to activities that are nowhere near it in similarity (aside from perhaps casinos) is completely asinine. The bottom line is, people need to make more noise about this site and get it shut down.
I assure you I am no employee. Ill throw in a f-bomb to help sustantiate. FUCK! I have won some amazing auctions on this site. I thoroughly studied how it worked and didnt play stupidly! The comments I have read complaining here are mistakes people made by not knowing what the heck they were doing. Jumping in quickly and being financially irresponsible and then wanting somebody to blame for their mistakes! Take some responsibility people! As with the clock inaccuracies that have been referenced, ridiculous! Think about it. Does every page you load while navigating on the web load with the same duration! No! The clock is dependent on transfer rate of data as everything else is! As a similar analogy the gentleman whos mentioned his sons success on Quibids made, if you don’t like it don’t play! Just as a person who doesn’t like to smoke, doesn’t smoke!
Quibids has had independent analysis company’s to check the validity of their practices and has shown to be legit and as transparent as you guys don’t want it to be!
I have won some amazing auctions on this site. I thoroughly studied how it worked and didnt play stupidly! The comments I have read complaining here are mistakes people made by not knowing what the heck they were doing. Jumping in quickly and being financially irresponsible and then wanting somebody to blame for their mistakes! Take some responsibility people! As with the clock inaccuracies that have been referenced, ridiculous! Think about it. Does every page you load while navigating on the web load with the same duration! No! The clock is dependent on transfer rate of data as everything else is! As a similar analogy the gentleman whos mentioned his sons success on Quibids made, if you don’t like it don’t play! Just as a person who doesn’t like to smoke, doesn’t smoke!
In the civilized world all bars are somke free, gues that isn’t the case in ethiopia? or where ever it is quibids has set up it’s “bid bots” like you, what you make like 7 cents a day?
Quibids gains your money buy having you buy bids from them. Next their automated system outbids you whenever you bid therefore you loose money. Clever scheme. Just have 30 random people work for you, Charge innocent people 60$ for bids. People Bid, Quibid workers outbid them. Quibid wins while the innocent customer lose their money, Quibids wins again thus never having to ship a 2,000 laptop to anyone.
QuiBids is not a scam. I have won over 50 different auction items on QuiBids from $25 dollar gift cards to a PS3 and Flip video camera. I am always hitting my 8 wins auction limit – which is my only complaint on the the site by the way. Don’t whine because you lost, just learn to bid better. You can’t go into any auction expecting to win, you have to study the other bidders and learn from them. In the end it is just luck and patience that will make you a winner. As for me I love the site and am completely hooked – I hope it never shuts down because QuiBids has forever changed how I buy consumer goods. I would also like to mention that QuiBids has outstanding customer support and have been great to work with when I have had issues. The bottom line is this is gambling people plain and simple, but you can’t win if you don’t play. So if you don’t like QuiBids, don’t go to the site. I won’t mind at all, and neither will any of the other users that love this website… just means less competition and more winning for us all!
If qbids is not a scam, then can you please explain to all of us two things: 1) how they can be making so much money and 2) how they are able to buy items for a fraction of the price that any legitimate reseller would pay.
I have won a PS3, Sony Bloggie, KitchenAid Mixer, ipod, Dewalt laser measurer, and different gift cards. Here is how the make their money. $20 Item sells for $1.42 that is 142 bids (each bid increases the auction $0.01. 142 x $0.60 = $85.20 so they sold a $20 item that they get for less than $20 for $85.20. So I think they made a profit. It is a genius business model. Learn how to bid!
Think about this for one minute. Obviously this site was set up to make a profit, duh. Items are being sold for up to 95% off…ok. So how can they offer consumers a good deal on a worthwhile product and still turn a profit? well, the overall ending bid pays for a fraction of it. Then to even bid, you pay .60 cents per bid. Lets take the most notable auction on quibids, the Honda Civic. The winner, merkmerk, placed 2030 bids to win the item, which amounts to $1,218. he additionally spent $1,740.48 to win the vehicle. This totals to 2,958.78. That is already 15% of the overall price! to even out, they needed another 28,402 bids. That might sound like a lot but considering the auction went on for about a month? that is only 916 bids a day, or 38 bids an hour! I am sure that a lot more than 38 people were bidding on this item, especially in the beginning. The drawback is there is a possibility they could lose money on items. It’s simple statistics, the probability of making money is much larger than it is of losing it, therefore…the penny auction was born. Are there ways to cheat people out of their money, definitely yes. Are we certain this is what is happening? Not an f-ing chance. So while I urge you to keep your mouths shut and let the big boys in their fancy suits decided whether or not they are guilty, I must at the same time thank you for reducing the amount of user activity the site will now receive; thanks to the enormous amount of negative feedback you have all managed to spark.
if you do the math the winning price was $1740.48 which means they had 174048 bids @ .60 per bid is $104,428.80 ..
qbids made plenty of money off this honda!
It may not be a scam but it sure in the heck is a gambling site. They should not compare themselves to e-bay auction site. They are not an auction site, a full flegded gambling site. A auction site is where you bid on an item and do not have to pay a dime until you win !!
I have won plenty of items also but have been cheated on so many levels. First the “Buy it now” offer sucks. When and if you reach the maximum bids it is worth they do not send you a “Buy it now” offer. It has happened to me over 3 times. And why would they, I put the money in and they are just going to give it all back to me? And they do send you a “Buy it now” offer if you need to pay hundreds of dollars more on an item. And why do that when the retail of the product is so over priced. You can buy the same exact thing at 1/3 of their price !!
I think they are part scam.. I have used them and won some things like your sons TV for $171 TV that quibids states was $2000 but if you google every items they have especially TVs they over state the price significantly; saw an auction today sony bravia 3d tv price = $2560 sold for $350 but the guy Jones**** bid 2400 bids @ .60 was about $1600 cost plus the $350 + ship so say $2k saved $560.. but google that TV they go for $800 and your not including how many bid were put in if he is real and put that many in himself. .low end items usually u can score easy… 2 way radio, tupperware, dvds, some low end cameras, i got a few and BD low volt drill etc but for the 171 tv that is 17,100 bids @ .60 cents each + bids.. he paid alot and maybe said very little.
something is fishy
Seriously? So because Jones**** spent 2400 bids which was a terrible decision, they are a scam?
I find the business model interesting and I’d probably invest in the company if they went public. It’s true that a person can end up spending a lot of time and effort to win an item, however, all your bid expenditures can be used as credit against the item you were trying to win. I think that is more than fair. I have won may Gift Cards, and I didn’t win the Canon 7D I had bid on, however, my total bid expenditure of $360 was credited against the $1,684 price for the kit and I purchased it for the difference. By the way, Amazon had the same kit for $1,699. Use Quibids responsibly and with some thought, and you will find it a great way to have fun and possibly get some bargains on items you want or need. Beware though, if you are using the site for impulsive purchases.
Any legit and reputable online business lists their rightful owners or the management on their website, incl. their names, short bio, previous work experience, education, etc. So, who runs Quibids?
Good luck finding that out..
it’s on their site: CEO, Matt Beckham and CTO, Shaun Tilford (see the company blog page).
And if it isn’t a scam, can you explain how the clock on items on the home page go down then go up again.
On Quibids, time goes backwards!
The reason the clock timer jumps up and down is explained on their site… everytime somebody bids, the timer gets an addition 10, 15, 20 seconds added (they say it’s like the “going once , going twice, gone” in live auctions).
It’s true they are making tons of money – if they sell a $20 Gift card for $0.80 – Quibids sold it for $48 ($0.60 a bid at 80 bids – each bid is a penny increase of the price).
So bidders more then covered the cost of the gift card for the person who was lucky enough to be the final bidder and get it for $0.80
Not a scam – now it might be keen to a raffle, except they do offer you the ability to buy the item at the retail value, paying the delta between what you bid and the actual price.
I’ve only been a member a few days, but I’ve bid only a few times and I’ve won a $15, $25 and $100 gift card… I’m out of pocket about $7, and I have more bids then I originally started with as two of the cards came with extra bids.
If the cards actually arrive – not a scam (at least not for me)
did buy now, got NOTHING yes virgina IT IS A SCAM, if they scammed you contact your credit card company and request a charge back, after they have done to many of theese they will not be able to proccess visa nad they won’t be able to keep ripping off good people. Until they do it again under another company name.
You know, there’s this useful skill you might want to learn. It’s called reading. It’s amazing what you find out, too-oh wait, you already know how, you just don’t read the parts that refute anything you THINK you understand.
Anyway, if the clock never went up again, Quibids would lose money on items, or only break even. The point is to make as much as possible, while promoting competitive bidding.
Michael explains this much better.
I can’t call Quibids a scam, but it’s as close as you can come without being one. It is certainly a morally corrupt business plan where, as stated in the lawsuit, the overwhelming majority of people will walk away with nothing but that horrible feeling of lost money in your stomach. I recently spent 4 hours of my time bidding on a 55″ tv, and knowing this is a big ticket item, i revisited my tips for bidding smart and researched past purchases and time. Found the 6 a.m. time period is usually pretty low(of the ended auctions they want your to see). Of coarse past purchases are no indicator of what may come, but i started bidding in at $63 and played it smart. $450 dollars later, and after so many “05….04….03….02….01….01…..01….” i could no longer hope to continue with this before i would be investing in the price of an already overpriced tv.
I immediately deactivated my account. I received two emails after, one was an add for the tv i had invested 450 in and gotten nothing to pay “only 900 more” and get the tv, which i can find around here for pretty much 900. Either way they are making 450 dollars off me. The other email was asking why they were losing my business. i replied with the two questions as follow. One, why does the countdown from 01 (especially on large ticket items i’ve noticed) last so much longer than one second. To this they did not deny! They reasoned by saying seconds are rounded and since they don’t want to show a 0 second because then it would be over,instead they round down from 1.4 seconds. I and i’m sure many others who have invested deeply in high ticket items will attest to that last second lasting more than 1.4 seconds, much more, and a noticeable plethora of lag (a convenient extra second) to catch up despite only one person bidding at that point. I do not agree or even accept this to be true. If the lag is intentional or not, and no matter how long that second last, they will have a reason to keep the $.60 rolling in. To directly quote from their customer service email in relation to their countdown lagging for a while before someone bids again ” but this problem can’t be fixed unless something improves with the internet!”. I am not irrational, if someone else outbids me then okay, tough miss, but this is something else.
The second question i asked is how they can collect 5-10 times their actual cost (bulk cost i’m sure) in just bids ($6300 in the tv auction i was in) then sell the product at the current bid, and not explain to potential users that people in that auction will be losing 6300 dollars combined, and one person will receive a thousand dollar tv. Yes, a company must cover its cost and make profit to be successful, but they take 10 people, collect all their money, and give one person a prize and tell the other 9 tough luck and we value your business(i’m sure they do!). If that were not bad enough they only show people who have won or people who bought it now and are happy paying way above retail. They should be clear on telling that their company functions completely on customers losing to keep their cash flow in the black. Sounds an awful lot like gambling. Only difference is casino’s at least make it known you’re actually more likely to lose your money by betting there. House always has the edge. No matter what quibids states, they need the overwhelming majority of people to lose and lose big to show off that small minority that wins.
Is it a scam? no. I have received gift cards from them. But it truly is a heinous and cruel businesses to 95 percent of their customers. There are right and wrong ways to bid at quibids, none of which remotely mean that said auction is going to end while your the winner before someone else decides to bid, skill counts for nothing against bid-o-matics and crowded auctions, just throw that cash in a river and check in later. Yet i have no doubt that an extremely large percent of money people invest in their auctions results in nothing but broken spirits and empty wallets, it has to be, the math doesn’t add up any other way! Profit= TR-TC. Fortunately we can get a very good veiw of revenue because every .01 cent (most often) in the auction x.60 is there revenue. and anyone who can look on amazon and imagine how poorly they pay their customer service can come up with their cost. throw in the +/- from making retail sale profit on buy it now (be it higher or lower then current bids placed) and bam. Closest you can get to scamming people legally.BBB only recognizes their commitment to customer service, not their business plan. Anyone who disagrees is ignorant of the truth (and math), they don’t see the 100 other people who placed the other 4890 $.60 bids to pay for their new ipod that makes it “completely legit” . avoid quibids at all cost, i’m fully behind this class action lawsuit and wish to see this site be a thing of the past. Not because i hate them, but i want more people to keep their own money and save and buy these things they desire most, then to have this abhorrent middle man who adds a little spice and keeps everything people allow them to. keep your money and buy what you like, else you very well may end up just donating to the rich.
wow, Josh I have never read such a well written comment. Thanks for taking the time.
Hahahahaha, I can’t believe this is a real statement… “They should be clear on telling that their company functions completely on customers losing to keep their cash flow in the black. Sounds an awful lot like gambling.”
Actually Josh, this sounds exactly like capitalism. I’m still laughing. So when you check out at any store, they should tell you they are counting on you to pay more for an item than it costs you? Its gambling? I can’t believe the comments here.
Take something more subjective, I think a car sale is a perfect example. They should tell you that you’re paying $4,000 over cost so they can move another car later in the day at $1,500 over and meet their margin? Every successful business functions to make a profit. They make a generous profit, that’s not a scam, that’s a successful business. They have no responsibility to tell you what you should know. If anyone goes into this and doesn’t know there is one winner and everyone else loses, well, how do they survive?
Is there any expectation of responsibility?
good question brad! It is the entire reason for writing the review.
I’ll rebuttal with a few of my own quotes from above. But first, the reason i believe they should be clear is because they call a raffle an auction. The expectation of responsibility ends where your customer’s expectations meet drastically different outcomes than their expectations likewise. Exempli gratia, open quibids.com and right there it says ending auctions, and we well know most people assume they understand an auction. You assume they will be responsible and read every single legal clause there is, while i assume good businesses won’t take advantage those who don’t. That was all i meant by informing you, more so than their micro print you have to hunt for explaining internet lag extending auctions.
Now, had you actually read the entire review, you would understand that it was written to INFORM, not insult. to quote myself “Yes, a company must cover its cost and make profit to be successful”. You tell me nothing I do not already know Brad. but good business is completely relative to who you are. selling melted down gold jewelry in Poland circa 1943 was a hopping business, but at what cost Brad?
So let’s take this car Brad. You like this car, you’ve seen it, heard it, heck, let’s say you’ve owned one before! you pull into the dealership, test drive it, negotiate a fair price then take it home. two weeks later you find the engine stops and you have a cracked head. that’s nothing a simple glance can find. Say, what if the dealer knew about it? When capitalism becomes synonymous with lying, that’s where i start to inform potential car buyers. I know the allegory is subtle, but i hope you caught it.
I find it to be my responsibility to inform people so that they can avoid contributing to this “generous profit” of theirs and just buy what they want. As stated above “is it a scam? no.”. I said that before you went on your rant and i still believe it. See brad, i’m an honest person, and i stand for honest things. I’m a paramedic, not for the rush, but to help people when they need it most. If given back too much change, i’ll give back what’s not mine. If i know an antique is a fake, i won’t try and sell it as authentic. And if i find quibids to be an auction site that holds no auctions, i will inform every single person i can that they simply resell consumer goods at extra consumer cost.
So there you have it.I informed anyone who’s read my article about this successful business and how they operate it. we agree it’s not a scam and they make an abundantly generous profit off the “auction” participants losing. having said this, my advice still stands. never use quibids. save up for things you really desire. And lastly, never listen to advice from people who consider “losing” a commodity in this great capitalistic society which we live.
Well said Josh, I’d like to see more people standing up to ignorance the way you did here. I certainly do expect responsibility and to say otherwise would be to give up on accountability altogether. I suppose we all have our definitions of capitalism, eh Brad? Why don’t we all define it the way you do and see what the future holds…
They have bots bidding for them!!! I downloaded bidproapp and it tracks bids, bidders, and historical pricing on all bids. I was bidding on a canon camera and bidder DMV1234 was constantly bidding against me. The app was not able to return any bidding history on DMV1234 or how many auctions they had won or lost. I know they had bidding history bc I has bid against DMV1234 in the past. Many other high priced items had other such ‘bidders’. They use bots!!!!
As some of the *winners* confirmed, QuiBids is a gambling site not an auction site. Although I won several small items also, I came to realize this is actually gambling and learned that overal, I lost or paid more than I actually won. I also have pity over new players or players who never won but dumped in loads of money and restless time and still came out as biggest losers because they couldn’t afford to purchase the item with *Buy It Now* at full retail *Value Price* after trading in bids they placed in 2 hours after the *auction* ended. QuiBids is the only biggest winner at all time. They not only make hundred times of the hefty profits on the bidding item, specially the big/expensive items that attract *bidders* who lost their bids. They also make money from selling the bidding items at retail value to the hundreds of losers who don’t want to lose all the bid money and end up paying more to use Buy It Now.
I am not in legal field but from my observation of the followings, I think QuiBids is guilty of misrepresentation and misleading the innocent public by conducting unfair and unethical business practices.
1. With the mechanism the system is ran, QuiBids is actually running an unethical gambling site under the name of auction and misleading innocent public to participate.
2. Quibid misadvertised and misled the public of the actual sold price of an auction items and hide the actual sold value it generated.
Each bid – 60 cents you spent to place a bid, only one cent counted to the auction price. For a $1500 retail value of TV, was claimed sold for $100. Sounds pretty deep discount and very attractive, isn’t it? However, the fact is for a $100 face value, 10000 bids were placed. ($100/$0.01 = 10000 bids). Each bid cost 60 cents. $0.60*10000 bids, = $6000. It means the TV with $1500 retailed valued was actually sold for $6000 not $100!!!
The winner still needs to pay$100 to buy the TV with a retail price of $1500 on top of the bid price purchased.
Let’s assume the winner placed 100 bids to win the auction. The winner’s cost is $0.60*100 = $60 plus $100 to purchase the TV at auction price, totals to $160. A 90% saving! Pretty amazing isn’t it? However, the total sale QuiBid received is $6100, a 400% return while the majority of the innocent bidders carry the losses to make QuiBid rich.
Although bidders can use “Buy It Now” to purchase the TV, you are buying it every penny on a retail price not as QuiBid falsely advertised “Buy It Now for a Discount!” Quibid spits out the bid amount you placed and applys the credit for you to purchase the TV with full price. If you can’t come up with the cash in 2 hours, you are in complet loss. QuiBids win either way. Even if you choose to purchase the TV and QuiBid has to spit out the bid credits, they still make profit on selling you the TV with full price. There is only one person can win the auction. For the rest of the bidders, if you are not planning to buy the product at full retail price, don’t try it, otherwise you will most likely lose your shirt.
3. Another unfair practice is, only purchased bids count to the bid credit. If you use bids purchased through voucher, there is no credit appies to the purchase price. It is a waste of money to buy or bid for voucher.
4. The timer is manipulated to trick bidders put more bids in to extend the bid session or close auction pre-maturely. Bidders often have no clear knowledge to know if the auction is ended or extended. The time counter sometimes hauls at the last minute for a while and tricks bidders to put in more bids. It then shows all the bids placed during the hault and immediately counter is approaching to 0 again. It happens quite often also, auction ends prematurally when bid placed at the last minute to extend the time got rejected. It also happened, timer came to a complet halt and resume after a period. The timer has its own mind to pick the end time and winner. QuiBids claims to make the auction more interesting. However, it really an unfair game that put bidders in uninformed and disadvantage position.
5. It also restricted bidders to have more than 4 windows opened. Limit auto bidding to 25 bids only. System has its own way of picking the next autobidder and not disclosing the selection rules. It also happened several times, instead of allowing me to place bid, it prompted me to re-login and caused me miss the window time to bid and win. All in all, the system is made to disallow bidders the ability to strategize their plans but just blindly putting in more bids that are only beneficial to QuiBids.
This site cannot be called a bidding site, it is between a raffle and a scam. I wasted $60 on it and felt I should warn others before they fall victims to this scam. Here is why:
-They almost definitely use bots (software modules) to make fake bids.
-To get your trust and lure you to spending big they give a few small beginers prizes when you join.
-Their advertising about what the items recently sold for is false and misleading.
The above points constitute an illegal operation and grounds for closing down the site.
Until recently I have done okay on Quibids. Yesterday, I received an e-mail telling me my account was locked and they canceled an item I had won and paid for. The money for the item is still pending on my account and will most likely debit this evening. They asked for several pieces of information and now they will not respond to messages. No one can seem to tell me why my account is locked either.
I have spent a ton of money on this site sometimes winning, but most of the time walking away with nothing.
Quibids is misleading in a number of ways. One of the biggest is their whole gift card category. They are tacking voucher bids onto gift cards and charging people for them in the final auction price, even though the bids are worthless and cannot be used to ward the purchase price of an item. For example, there are numerous $10, $15, and $25 gift cards that have 10, 15 , 20, or 25 bids included. A “$15 gift card + 20 bids” ends us costing $27 + 1.99 = $28.99 for a $15 gift card and 20 worthless bids if you buy it because you do not win it. If you don’t win the auction and you buy it, of course using your credits for the bids spent, you pay full price (.60) for those 20 extra bids, yet they are credited to you as voucher bids and do not count toward your purchase price if you bid on something. They have to be making a killing on these in the gift card category. There are very few gift cards available for bid that do not have their extra bids attached. This is very misleading and unfair as far as I am concerned.
This is a list of the gift cards + bids auctions they are running.
In each case, the buyers who do not win the auction and use their credits to buy the auction are getting the gift card + a number of “voucher bids” that can be used to bid on an item, but are not creditable toward the purchase of the item in the event the bidder does not win – even though the buyer paid the full price (.60 each) for the bids by buying the auction.
So essentially, they are selling gift cards at inflated prices and misleading people with extra bids while doing it. There are a few auctions during the course of the day for gift cards that do not have their extra bids attached, but the vast majority of gift cards do.
$10 gift card + 10 bids = $16 + $1.99 = $17.99 (for a $10 card)
$15 gift card + 20 bids = $27 + $1.99 = $28.99 (for a $15 card)
$25 gift card + 20 bids = $37 + $1.99 = $38.99 (for a $25 card)
$50 gift card + 25 bids = $65 + $1.99 = $66.99 (for a $50 card)
This is completely wrong. You are not accounting for the bids. You cannot say it is $66.99 for a $50 gift card. It is $66.99 for the card and 25 bids. People are getting too caught up in this belief that vouchers are worthless. Your bid is equally valuable to winning an auction as those with $ bids. In fact, competing with $ bids actually help you unless they are insistent on pushing the auction to its full retail value. If so, it is up to you to know how to bid, when to bid and watch the amount of bids someone has placed. You will know when their bids are reaching full retail value. At that point they are out of the auction and it might be time for you to get in. If someone has been agressive and hits that value in bids, it is highly probable most bidders have given up and you get in for a few voucher bids and win the auction. The savings on smart wins more than makes up for not getting $ bids. Please see my reply below for more detailed information. This is a competition not a giveaway.
If you read my reply below, I’m hopeful you
Brad is right, you are probably a Quibids employee, if so get an education and a real job, you may sleep at night again.
I’ve worked for scam artists and this site has all the trappings. I should have known better, in retrospect.
Think about how many times you’ve bought something on ebay or amazon, and it sucked, but you spent your time checking the ‘reviews’ and it looked like it would be just fine?
Look at all the people on here talking about “it’s in the print” and “the bids count towards your buy it now price”. How many of them do you think are either working for the site, know someone who does, or are getting kickbacks? I was telling a guy about this tonight who said the seller from Amazon emailed him after a negative review and offered him half off his item if he’d remove the comment?
I worked for a radio station that sold things online. It was flea market junk passed off as the latest, greatest thing. Or it was bait and switch. There was plenty of fine print involved when the people showed up to buy that crap too. And there were plenty of stock characters calling in to give their rave reviews.
I’m embarrassed to realize I’m still clinging so desperately my naivete as to have fallen for this bullcrap. Keep up the fight, people, even if there’s no links to this class action suit. Eventually someone will get this Enron of auction sites.
FYI if you’ve got the know how, I’ve gotten so far as to figure out they’re based in Oklahoma City, OK. Couldn’t find any way to get in touch with the district attorney there (yet). Maybe someone else knows how.
Bottom line is it’s very deceptive, everything about them is. These guys should be thrown in jail, oh and they have trap pages once you win a few times so those of you who have won a few gift cards, keep buying more bids and bidding you’ll eventually lose your shirt. They also move items to the top of the page once they get high enough. They won’t be around much longer.
it happened that I had two computers with too different internet providers so, I was bidding on an ipad and I knew I am not getting it and we were at $20 or close to that when I saw another ipad ending for $3 which wasn’t logical !! so I looked on my other PC and what amazes me that I couldn’t see the Ipad that I am bidding on !!! it was on my first PC right down a Macbook Air and on the second one there were a camera under the same Macbook Air so, I’ve realized they got me. What really made me feel bad is I got hit without knowing so, I mean I do remember that I’ve agreed on paying #7 for an Item that cost $15 (thought I am a winner) (you guys read carefully this part) for that payment I used paypal which I always do (the $7) and I had to go through paypal payment process (usual) but !!! when I’ve received the Email telling me they charged me $60 !! I went to my account in paypal and found nothing ! then I checked my credit card website (the one connected to my paypal) I found the charges there !!!! A legitimate company would never go behind your back and steal from your credit card THEY’RE NOT EVEN SUPPOSE TO KNOW YOUR INFORMATION WHEN USING PAYPAL THROUGH THEIR WEBSITE !!! this is why paypal been created, and for all those folks there who is saying its our mistake for trying it I say: WHEN YOU AGREE ON BUYING ANYTHING ONLINE YOU CONFIRM THE PAYMENT TWICE AT LEAST WITH THE AMOUNT YOU PAYING, NOT YOU PRESS (CLAIM YOUR BADGE) AND ENDED UP PAYING $60 no gentlemen please stop defending them even if you won something out there they’re business is SCAM they have to give something from time to another I mean after making $20.000 on a stupid plasma TV why not giving it to away, the winner still at least paid the $60.
when you lose, it’s very frustrating. but if you know the strategies you can win. the company is listed with the BBB.
yes and has MULTIPULE complaints against them started with the Oklahoma City BBB wher QUI-SCAM is based. You work for quibids?
I can sure agree with these people. Quibids is just a scam.I just read what cody was saying about him having the two computers and not seeing on the secound computer what was on the first. I wen,t to the page, with participating auctions. It keep a record of what items that I showed an intrest in, I know on occasion at an auction your going too bump heads with another bidder . But when that happens several times in a row .theres more going on than meets the eye. I would flip back too my orignal auction page and find maney of the items that had been on the page were now missing.The page would be filled with newley started auctions, and many times the closing bids where very much lower than the bids that I would always end up with. I would find an auction where the bids were already well up and start bidding and would end up at my bid limit anyway. I then found the page with bid vouchers on it. I thought great maybe I could win an auction for a bid voucher or two and get back some of the bidding power Ihad lost in the product bidding . this seemed fine untill I found that the bids that you pay for arn,t the same as the bids from a voucher.when you use the by now button to end your bidding and purchase your Item the voucher bids can not be used too purchase items and are not deducked from the price of the product.while what is termed as real bids are .(real bids are the ones that you pay cash for) Can you think what would happen if you wre bidding on a high priced item and used up all your real bids only too find out in order too use your by now option that you owed two or three hundred dollars . and couldn,t come up with the money after bidding three or four hundred real bids. I called and asked why quibids didn,t use the voucher bids befor they used real bids and was told by a customer repersentive that the voucher bids had a longer life than the real bids do . There for the real bids would be used first and thats the way quibids has it set up. Even thought quibids states that fact in there information about Quibids doesn,t make it alright to take advantage of the people that use there web site. I know I paid for my vouchers with real money ,expecting too get in return real vouchers that could be used the same way . If I were to deposit real money into a bank ‘ and when I went to get it back they gave me money printed on there own copy machine I would be no less IRATE P.S. QUIBIDS IS A SCAM.
What I think is the real scam here is the misrepresentation of the prices at which the items are “sold” and the total amount of money present on the “table” during the auction. For example: I saw an item sold for $5.18. This means that there were 518 bids. At 0.60 cents per bid QuiBids raked $310, way above the retail and the “buy it now” value of the item in question!! This is clearly a sort of pyramidal scheme and QuiBids takes advantage of the gullibility of the people. I’m happy to see that some people decided to bring a class action lawsuit against these guys!
I just thought i’d update anyone reading this what i have heard from quibids since the last posting as of 2/22. it’s been over two months since i have written, and a little longer since the loss that i stated. Shortly after writing that post. i decided to take this up with the BBB of Oklahoma where they are indeed from.
It started just as it does when you write their help stating their normal small print chat. this was their first reply. to this i gave a specific and very long form reply and did not accept their “terms”. what bothers me most with quibids is the BBB gives the business 2 weeks to reply, and each time quibids has replied with only 1 day left to reply, hence being 2 months later and the ongoing battle ensues. so after 2 weeks i got their second reply, it seems they wanted to make things final so they stepped up their game from the normal BS and finally got somebody with a mind to answer, but the answer was truly no better, just more authoritative. and i quote “Used bids in auction that are not used towards a ”Buy It Now” provide the revenue for our company” and “. QuiBids auctions do not contain the chance element, because our auctions are customer driven and do not involve randomness”. and alas “If an auction time appears to hesitate during the last second it may occur from so many bids being placed at one time causing the lag”. i had so many problems with these quotes i did not spare any space to explain my thoughts on them.
i will save you all the time here, but these statements should be on their front page. and if they know their software causes lag when an auction is ending????? it seems they find this quite alright? so far they’ve stated it rounds up. now it lags during end time bids? it would appear the chips are stacked against us people, at least be consistent quibids. so along with my reply, seeing as i’m rather skilled at math, i drew up a probability index/income revenue equation for their business including the proof for my very situation, it essentially showed that placed bids invariably based on there revenue as stated in the first quote i posted above, involved a probability factor not only for the outcome of an auction, but also for them and the bidder. really, it just means that there is chance involved, and money is spent based on that chance, therefor it is gambling as defined by the law(consideration, chance, prize). if they had not stated to me that this was how they made money(bids not used on buy it now), this equation would fail, but that sole sentence sealed any chance of winning a legal battle involving gambling issues.
as for now, seeing as their last reply was considered their final offer with the BBB( it was for me to just accept that they are right). I now await their next answer to this last reply. they can only fight for this vile cause for so long before the BBB sees all this proof and wrong doing to stop backing them. just open their page and see that big blue banner that says BBB accredited, some how i feel a few of the quotes from their email should be posted around that banner. again save your money, be well, and enjoy life!
I was messing around w/the computer one night and got scammed out of 60.00 from my credit card. I never bidded on anything. Once I realized what was going on I tried to get my money back by cancelling sign up process but I have never gotten my money back. I even caalled a number that was on the web site to no avail. I cancelled and still never got my money back. I hate these web sights that tries to scam people out of their hard earn money. I want my 60.00 dollars back. I got nothing for my money and I will not quit until I get my money back. These websites that rip people off sucks. It has been about three weeks and I have not heard anything. I want to know what to do next because I want my money back. I don”t have money to gave away. My phone # is 443-983-4472.
Quibids is fine. You just have to be smart about how you use the site. I have gotten four gift cards that are usable a home depot, walmart, amc theaters and outback steakhouse for pennies on the dollar sure I bought bids, but I still ended up paying so-o-o much less than what these things are worth. I am sorry that are people unhappy, but you need to know what you are doing before you bid or but anything on the internet. I think the site is great fun!
and I think you work for them
spent over 360.00 for a 25.00 sony headphones. and an 8.00 restaurant card.. I feel like such a fool.
I won the bid MS Mouse, but pay more than the retails cost at the store , it very add up when they add (S&H fee), Big Scam don’t waste your money on this QuiBids
I have been fortunate to have won some of what I refer to as the non-essential items on the site. I too have been deceived about the $60.00 beginning fee that wasn’t made clear until it was to late! The one thing that discourages me the most is that when you look to the left of their screen for a previous item that sold, you see it advertised for selling at a mere 1-10 cents at an earlier time slot (but not most recently sold)! Another deceiving tactic on behalf of the site. Most important thing to remember is that this as well as other sites like it, have some pretty aggressive bidders that some how always seem to pop up driving the prices to a point that the average joe just can’t afford to go against. I would find it interesting if some one took the time to see if these bidders actually exist, or is it the company themselves just doing the bidding on occasion just to pocket what they can get?
In My Belief all of the following statements are true and accurate. I can produce copies of my mother’s credit card and debit card transactions. I’m just sick about Quibids taking advantage of her. She does not realize it.
Quibids is a SCAM…BIDDERS RUN AS FAST AS YOU CAN!!
QUIBIDS NEEDS TO BE STOPPED!! They are moving fast and making tons of money.
Quibids is a Gambling Website…Nothing more. Regulation is needed to STOP Quibids from taking advantage of people. Especially ELDERLY INDIVIDUALS wanting to win for their children or grandchildren.
My elderly mother has been taken to the cleaners by QUIBIDS. I watch a 27′ Apple Air Mac Laptop sell for 338.00. this is 33800 bids x .60 cent per bid. It’s approximate retail value is three thousand dollars. Quibids made 333800 x.60 bid. It’s horrible and they should be stopped.
I watched Quibids Auctions for about an hour with my mother. They keep the bidding going with their Admin. panel.
It’s my belief they have employees bidding against REAL bidders.
They use their Admin. panel and auto bids. The employee’s names normally have numbers behind their user names. IDONTSTOP1, IDONTSTOP2, etc. Just watch their website and it doesn’t take an idiot to figure this out. People get in so deep they “feel” they need to purchase item to retrieve some of their money back. The item’s price is always inflated. You also pay Shipping and Handling. They have their transaction fee of 1.99 for gift cards.
I’ve rambled enough but I fear looking at my mother’s Credit Card and Bank Statement with debit card included. I can only PRAY.
With respect to the “lag” on the last second:
Ebay doesn’t have the lag that they do. If you bid at 1 second on ebay, the auction has already ended. If you bid around -1 seconds on quibids, you d*** well know you’ll get there in time.
Put that in the class action lawsuit.
That last second is very misleading to consumers.
Additionally, it is False Advertising. Quibids advertisement states” Never pay Retail Again-Save 95% on items”. Well you won’t pay Retail as prices are Greatly Inflated!! How do we join this class action lawsuit? I’m totally in agreement with posters regarding Quibids Scam. I have actually been logging in for hours watching, related to anger over my mother being taken advantage of.
I’m totally sick over this situation. Please keep your comments coming.
In all comments I’ve read (here and other sites) they compare penny auctions (like quibids) with gambling. Has anybody analyzed it under Ponzzi or Pyramid schemes?
Specialy those not offering the “buy now” option.
This is like taking the casino to court because you didn’t win. LOL
No it’s like taking the guy that sold you a house he didn’t own to court. They scammed me, I got my money back and now travel the net warning others. Me thinks you ware a quibids uniform to work each day.
Hmmm….Just won a playstation3 320 gig bundle for 9.06. With shipping it cost me 21 bucks and some change. Researched to find the station sells for 399.00 which is what it was promoted at. PS. 85oo HP Printer also on its way for 29.99. Reails for 300 and up. If you dont win – dont whine, just dont play.
Which impels the question, why are you here? Natural instinct to immediately search for “quibids class action lawsuit” after your apparent success is it? The tinge of bitterness that I and i’m sure many others feel toward this company and your apparent need to expeditiously prate yourself exist because of their heinous practices. Here’s to the x amount of people who forked out $2,343 so Dana could stoke her ego in full view of those trying to stop another corrupt business. Find a better way to spend your holidays from now on rather than wasting our time.
Excellent retort! And something I never really thought of properly before. Why are the ‘it was great for me’ commenters here? If you want to post a positive review, you go to the company where you bought the product from or to a review site, not a complaints website!
And to all those trying to convince consumers that they’re too dumb to bid on a penny auction site and that’s the reason why they lost money – please stop rubbing salt into the wound. One day you’ll be taken for a fool and you’ll understand how horrible it is. Right now, you think you’re being clever, and gloating about it, but its a shallow victory. You will pay, one way or another, some day. I hope its soon enough so you can remember what you did to others. Ding business for profit is acceptable. But stealing from innocent people is not.
Not sure if it is a scam, as I have won several small items, but they definitely do not inform you of what you’re likely to pay in bid costs. They obviously also make thousands of dollars on higher end electronics, so their bid costs should really be closer to 5 cents rather than 60. I’m going to burn the rest of my bids up and cancel. eBay is a better deal all around. If I really want to waste money ill hit the casino rather than wasting time on an auction I have a very slim chance of ever winning.
I signed up for Qbids and had $60 withdrawn from my bank account as well as another $60 hold as well. I went to thier buy bids page and started looking at what a $60 package was that I was charged for and just decided to use the bids and never come back. Well I started bidding on a bid pack and used the automatic bidder and after I had placed enough bids to cover the cost of the $100 bid pack at normal cost the next bidder won the auction even with my automatic bidder with bids left to place. I was under the assumption that when you place auto bid on an item that your guarenteed to always have a bid in place either until you run out of bids or you win the auction. Well I got neither. All my auto bids were used but 2 to where it cost $60 (price of 100 bid pack anyway) and then another auto bidder won and I was out all my bids plus the auto bidder never placed the remaning of my bids. I also watched the site some before I even stated to place my $60 in bids I was charged and I would place a few bids on an item and watch who bid. I would then come back a different time of day, on a different auction and watch who was bidding for a bit then place my bid and what do you know….the bidders that were bidding against me that same morning just happend to start bidding on the exact same product again once my bid was placed at the exact same time of day I decided to come back to the auction site. This would happen EVERY single time I bid no matter what day…what time…or what auction. These sites will have made millions by the time they are either given more regualtions or shut down and by then they will have enough money from ripping people off that they will not care if their closed down.
Seems like a scam. Whenever you try to participate in the high dollar auctions, it seems like you bidding against robots who are forcing up the prices. Have been the high bidder on a number of auctions when the clock hit zero, only to have the auction clock restart after a three to five second pause. Reported this to their Customer Service to be told it was internet lag.
I did the same and just got the 60.00 back on my card after waiting on them to finish the dispute.
I have won over $250 dollars worth of items and have only spent the $60 sign up fee and shipping on the items I have won. I also still have over 100 bids and haven’t purchased any since sign up. You have to be patient and strategize, some people will never understand this concept because we as Americans are very impatients beings. However, I have the merchandise to prove that I have won over 11 items and have only been bidding for two weeks.
so how long you been working for quibids?
This online penny auction company is nothing short of a legalized crook.
They definitely need more oversight.
For example, in the middle of bidding on bid vouchers, I purchased more bids from their online store. During this transaction, unbeknowst to me, I had received an email offering me a personal price for the same package of 100 bids I had just purchased. I paid $60 for those 100 bids, the personal price offered me in the email was $33.60, a difference of $26.40. In short time, I bought another pack of 100 bids for $60 but had an email offering me a personal price of $36.60, a difference of $23.40.
So I emailed quibids asking them for a refund of $49.80 ($26.40 + $23.40) since it is the difference in the price they offered me by email. After three emails and a phone call, they conveniently tell me they can’t do this because the types of bids they offered me this special price for are different than the ones I purchased at full retail value. The difference between the two bids is that the ones offered in the email are voucher bids are NOT refundable. Now understand the reason you get these special BUY NOW offer emails is because you have already spent bids trying to win these auctions. So even though REAL bids as opposed to VOUCHER bids were used to try and win the auction of 100 VOUCHER bids, I can’t have a partial refund (per their own offer) for the 100 bids I bought because they are different types of bids.
I then complained that in their bid purchase store, this buy now VOUCHER bids option was not available to me, just the REAL voucher bids option at full retail value.
The reality is the two packages of 100 bids are spent, so I won’t be asking for a refund of them because they were REAL bids versus VOUCHER bids. The point is that if I had known I was being offered the ability to purchase a package of 100 VOUCHER bids at a discounted rate from the 100 REAL bids I purchased, I would have bought them. The fact that this company refuses to credit me the difference for their own offer is assinine.
Bottom line, these people are crooks. I have closed my account and will NEVER do business with them again.
BEWARE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
*I guess I need to post a disclaimer I’m just a regular guy before I’m accused of being part of this business*
There are many posts here with flawed logic. If you don’t have a clear, well developed strategy, then yes you could (most likely will) “lose”. First, you must have knowledge of your auctions. How many of the people who lost took the time to either personally track a history or simply search available reports of when your targeted auction most often ends? If you just “bid” you’re surely wasting money. That’s not the site, that is the bidder.
Next, how could it be any clearer that you are purchasing something? You entered your credit card and accepted a purchase. There was nothing deceptive to me when I purchased the bid pack. I was getting 100 bids. Considering someone makes a concerted effort to make a purchase indicates responsibility for actions. They don’t steal your credit card and click purchase for you.
Next, for those claiming a scam on getting vouchers on the “+ bids” auctions, it would be an insane business model for them to credit you back bids at reatil price. Think that one through. It would be crazy to not take the percentages of getting it lower than retail cost and if you don’t, no big deal. You are always able to bid until you reach retail (remember, its your responsibility to know what is real retail – a gift card is a hard value). With a return of “real” bids you will get the item and your bids at a complete break-even point. There is no incentive whatsoever to not take the auction all the way. Someone would always bid the auction to the full retail price because if you’re going to spend $25 at wal-mart, why not just take the chance at getting it at a discount? You just get the card, spend the $25 on real bids and start the cycle all over again.
The next necessary understanding is they have to add the bids on to gift cards or you’re right back into the same scenario. You have a straight $15 gift card. Get into the auction, bid everytime someone else bids. Worst case scenario, you pay regular price plus $2.00 for a mid-range % of getting it at a discount. I track all of my auctions, bids used and total savings. I have come out in 2 months of use, over $450 in gift cards and just a few regular items with a net savings of 43%. That is not bragging, that is presenting hard facts on the results of strategy and understanding of this model.
In many ways it is similar to buying a car. Would you sue the dealership for paying $29,000 on a Honda Accord when the next guy with more knowledge waits for the best time of the year to buy, knows how to negotiate prices and gets the car for $24,500? This is your mistake, not the dealership. Its capitalism, if you want to give away money, a business will accept it.
Finally, vouchers. The strategy on leveraging vouchers is accumulating and not using the vouchers while continuing to buy and use real bids that do credit toward the purchase price. Again, being smart, worst case scenario is paying full price on something that has a “real” value, such as a gift card. As you accumulate vouchers you put yourself into a position to only use vouchers and leverage your bidding power on a few specific items you want. If you’re smart, you get a sense of when to get into an auction, you’ll use vouchers to increase your ability to carry an auction to a win. For every voucher you accumulate while buying auctions with real bids you incrementally reduce the expense of the voucher bid (taking into account you win auctions at a discount based on smart bidding). This is what creates the opportunity to calculate the “cost” of your voucher use and bid smart on larger items.
This is not a short-term, easy way to get items for fractions of the cost. To interpret the business model as a scam could be considered lack of knowledge and strategy on the bidders part.
Why is it difficult to understand?
because the rest of us didn’t take the thirty pieces of silver brad
just cause you say you don’t work for a fraudulent company don’t make it so. In fact if I were a quibids employee told to hush up our scam where ever possibale I think I would start my post with;
*I guess I need to post a disclaimer I’m just a regular guy before I’m accused of being part of this business*
What quibids isn’t above stealing from the elderly but they would never lie in an online post?
labor day- i spent 1000.00 on bids for a 150cc scooter, durning that time i watch the count down going 5-4-3-2- 1, and it did not pay off. 72 times i hit the mark, 1 , and 7 times i counted anywhere from countdown 3-2-1-0-1 sold, to 3-2-1-0-1-2-3-4 sold. how can this be a fair auction when there rules change. I contacted quibids about this problem, told them i had been watching for several hours, just watching. the selling point which should countdown 5-4-3-2-1–sold hads many variations from 5-4-3-2-1 sold, to 5-4-3-2-1-1-2-3-sold if your counting by using there clocks , you can’t win . i played again this morning on a security system with cameras, got the same thing , i bid on the item, went and looked at another item and QUICKLY came back due to it being a auction, i watched it hit 1 , and this time shot my bid in only for it to come back and say your to late it is sold by bid was not in time. what the heck, like i’ve said i have been to many auctions both in person and by internet, so i know how they work , but gee !
addition, i contacted the company by there contact support,
1. they say they have 24-7 help available—not true
2. i contacted them to complain, didn’t get anywhere, so i asked -can i get the person above you like your manager, reply i am the manager no one else above me. i asked i would like to contact your company , what is the address and the phone number, answer i can’t give you this info. asked if i could contact the ceo, the front office, managers, answer, again no. then i was unpluged with the person i was e-mailing, lucky i printed off a paper copy of the transcript, shows word for word.
I just find it incredibly funny that all the posts that people are making saying how they have been scammed, or had their money stolen are written with an extravagant number of typos. While on the same hand, the posts defending quibids.com generally have less typos and grammatical errors. It’s called spell check people!
—Someone who has never used quibids.com
People who have been ripped off are MAD and so type with fury, people paid by quibids to help keep the scam mum copy paste or use spell check. Some of my posts have typo’s and I’ll bet my yearly income has more digits than yours (means orders of magnitude large)
It’s not the grammar that matters, it’s the quality of argument. This is a website, not a published journal. Get a life.
I Was doing a search for e-bay, and another website popped up.(Quibids) People were bidding on a shell 10 $ gas card for a penny so i bid 2 pennies,then it made me put in my credit card info to become a member of the site. I started bidding on products one penny at a time. I was not aware they took 60 $s out of my account and gave me 100 bids, so every time i bid one penny, i was really bidding 60 cents.I was bidding on a mp3 8GB player when i realized i was not bidding with pennies i had already spent 9 dollars, so i stopped bidding right away. i was even willing to buy it now and take the 9 dollar discount, but i looked on e-bay and the same one sells for half the price!Even with the 9 dollars i was tricked into spending. So this Web site scammed me out of sixty dollars i don’t have, and it’s going to make me over with drawl my bank account! Also i will not be able to pay for my prescription drugs this up coming Monday.This scam has not only cost me money, but it cost me hours of time on the internet trying to get my money back, this can possibly cost me my health if i cant borrow money from someone. This has brought an enormous amount of stress to my life! I live pay check to pay check and this seriously has messed me up. I would really like my money back! i defiantly didn’t agree to spend 60 dollars on this site. If i did click on something, it was a mistake and extremely sneaky! please respond back ASAP thank you sincerely, Scott
I Really hope you guys can help, and i hope Quibids has to repay all of the victims out there!
I tried the web site. It is misleading to get you to sign up. The debit actually occurs before they ask for the verification code to activate the account. I found on some of their merchandise that when certain people did bid, there was a follow-up bid by the same person. However, that person never placed a bid until a certain bidder placed a bid. May have been coincidence but happens more than I could count. The company’s automatic bid feature for some people would have cost the bidder more money than the item was reported as a retail price. The business model may work but that is what Wall Street thought when they developed Mortgage Back Securities and Credit Default Swaps.
I too lost money on quibids.com. I bought 100 bids and set up an account and within literally minutes all my bids were spent and I got NOTHING in return! A $59.99 waste of my hard earned money and nothing to show for it! I closed my account with them immediately!
I could not add anything new to this site. I don’t usually want to join class action suits, but sign me up. They need to go NOW before the owners get rich off this scam. How does someone gets this out to the public?
I lost too, and I really don’t think anyone could win in couple days! I won three small auctions on the first days. I won couple dollars, after deducting fees and bid cost ($0.6/bid). But on the second day, I lost almost $150 since I lost an auction valued $150. There was only one person won, and the other lost. If I added the total bids had been placed, the cost of placing bids must have been more than $750, much greater than the value of $150. I was to determine to win that since if I lost, I would lose 245 bids that were voucher bids. I kept placing bids for more than 3 hours, and when the auction was still going strong where many people was playing, it suddenly stopped. I did not believe the auction ended suddenly like that. How could many people suddenly stopped placing bids at the same time? It is impossible unless QuiBid set up. After that, I did win three small auctions very quickly (?) after the big lost. On the third day, since I thought I might win some small auctions again, I played on small auctions only, and I didn’t win anything. Based on what happened to me, I really think QuiBid really set things up. I agree that QuiBid is scam. People do a right thing to sue QuiBid. I read some comments here, saying that they won. I really don’t believe them. QuiBid is definitely scam. There is no doubt that people should stay away from this site.
I can understand people getting mad, First let me address the issue no im not an employee or know an employee. I have won several times on this site i got a Bose sound dock for under $50 total including shipping and a $400 wine rack for under 60 bucks now i did pay full price for my ipod and my camera. yes there are deals to be had and someone things people bid you into the ground the key is to open your eyes and understand what points enter the auction ….. no if they would allow you to use the vouchers in the buy it now options would be great so they can actually have the vaule they claim they have is my biggest issue. Its not a scam, its not someone thing for the common user if you entered thinking you were getting something for nothing you were trying to scam someone else.
Its a scam if they don’t allow people to bid on all the auctions. If you compare 2 browsers with 1 logged in and the other not logged in you will see tons of auctions that you cannot bid on while logged in. The button comes up as ‘unavailable’. I was told these auctions are for ‘new members’.
Yet while I was watching the bidding on these ‘unavailable’ new member auctions older members bid up the auctions of these items for new members yet I couldn’t touch any of it. Where they Quibids employees or bots? Why can these older members bid on these items while I can’t?
That’s a scam not an auction. Same as a rigged card game. Back in the old days you got shot/hanged for doing such things..
I think a solution to this whole thing is pretty simple. Why doesn’t Quibid remove the decimal piont and the dollar sign from the bids? Instead of saying that an apple ipad sold for $22.53, say that an apple ipad went for 2,253 bids. Could it be that nobody would buy into this site? Hey why not call it $.60 auctions instead of penny auctions. I know how the old saying goes,” buyer beware”. But in the times that we are living in now consumers are looking for deals. Parents are saying to themselves ” I wish I could get my kid that game console he’s been asking for, but I just don’t have the money for it right now”. Then they see how someone on Quibid got it for a fraction of the price. All they’re thinking of is, ” If I can get that game for my kid, he will be the happiest kid on the planet. I have to sign up now before the auction ends”. Scam? may be not. Because all the information is on the website. Misleading? I think so. For the reason I mentioned above. Just my point of view.
I have a “friend” who works at QuiBids. He told me that QuiBids employs people to respond to negative blogs/comments online pretending to be happy customers. So any time you see positive posts about QuiBids, chances are they are just another scam by QuiBids.
TANSTAAFL
These idiots should have known what they were getting into…its in the mission statement…the Millions QuidBids has made will buy the best lawyers to shut up the whinning idiots that don’t know how to read. Read the fine print. There is no way this lawsuit will fly. What a waste of time.
I bought a bid package valued at $100.00. After spending just a few minutes on the auction I realized how the business model worked and how the vast majority of bidders would never win an auction.
Even if the class action suit is not successful, I am sure the business model is so flawed it will not survive for long. The item I was bidding on eventually sold for $58.57. That’s 60 cents a bid times 5857 or $3,514.20 plus the winning bid of $58.57 for an item that retails in any major retailer for $400.00. In addition the auction for this item was over 8 hours long, a penny bid at a time. Who has the time to sit in front of their computer for long periods of time to place penny bids in order to stay in the hunt.
Some may argue that the eventual winner did benefit from the auction by paying only a fraction of the retail value of the won item. However, if every winner totaled all the penny bids times 60 cents that he/she bid for the item, plus the winning bid dollar amount, plus the time element, everyone’s time has a cost value, I think it is safe to assume that in most cases the total out of pocket cost, make actually winning an auction much less attractive than originally thought. My 2 cents!
I think What is totally unfair and unlawful is win you win an auction for free bids vouchers and they charge you delivery and handling fee when all it is an instant bid credit ther no shiping or delivery of a product.
Go get ’em! I hope and pray that you win this class action suit, get restitution for your clients, and at the very least, shut these guys down to prevent others from being been suckered. Sure, all the dirty details are right there in their lengthy terms of agreement, so we can’t call it a scam. But they are misleading people. I spent a whole day on the site and noted several problems that I won’t repeat, but please pay attention to comments made here by: Lenore VanDemark, Johs, Lili, Cody and Roger. They said it well.
I have been doing quibids for a while now more than one year. I am aware it is gambling, but I have some decent luck. Sure I have spent more than I have won, maybe much more. Overall I have/had enjoyed quibids.
However my recent experience has tested me.
The Games was a cool addition, and they are making good money on the chance to play their games. I am not against them making money but,
I was perusing the quibids website one late night, and found a “No purchase necessary” clause to play their games.
Simply go to their “help” page and to left of screen click “game rules”
check it out before they take it down.
There you will find a page that is no purchase necessary to play their games. It instructs you to place on a 3×5 card your name, address, email address, user name, phone number, and a copy of your government issued ID (To prove you are at least 18). It also states only one entry per envelope. Also stating wait 4-6 weeks
Each entry will get you one free game.
On Oct. 10th I mailed 5 such envelopes, waited 6 weeks and nothing. I have been in touch with their customer service and it is obvious they have no intention of honoring their own “No Purchase Necessary” rules.
Tomorrow I am going to the BBB. Tonight I am working to get the word out in hopes that quibids becomes inundated with these “No Purchase Necessary” games.
A few things I notice. Ever watch where bidders that are bidding from on the live map on quibids site?
Seems like an extra ordinary amount of bidders from an island just east of Florida. How can 25% of bidders be from the same small island? Or could it be a computer program keeping the bids going?
I have many websites and have procured a script that is similar to the quibids program called “penny auctions” and YES, I can program items to either be won only by “computer generated” bidders, or… “computer generated” bidders keep the bidding going until enough “real” bids are gnerated. The programmers “state” it is only for testing the system. Really?
Gets me back to watching the live map, and my question of why so many bidders are from this island off of Florida??
Beware Bidders!
I’m a computer scientist and I have been studying QuiBids for about 6 Months now.
I have not spent any money.
These are my findings:
#1 – The biggest problem is the countdown timer. I have noticed 100s of occassions where the auction would end nowhere near the 1 second mark. The worst I witnessed was about 9 seconds remaining and then a winner the next second with it ending. This is not uncommon. If you observe Quibids for merely 1-2 hours you will notice that many winners are declared without a 3, 2 or 1 second countdown.
#2 – The next concern I had was when multiple same items occur at the same time or cross over into auctioning off during the same times. This was most prominent with $10 giftcards, so I observed sometimes 3-4 same gift cards going at the same time. The results were always the same; the gift card with the most bidders would have a driven up price and very random ending, while the other 3 exactly same cards would have gone for $0.01. Also, a few times I noticed the $10 giftcard nobody bid on all the way down to 0 seconds and nobody won at all. Meanwhile one of the other cards would have 10 bidders going insane trying to win. It was my conclusion that had anyone bid on the other cards (such as the one that nobody bid on at all) that it would have suddenly had more bidders not allowing anyone to win it for the mere $0.01.
#3 – I recorded excel spreadsheets, page after page, of the exact same item. In this case, $10 canadian tire gift card. My goal here was to determine a pattern of day, time, and average prices. I came to the conclusion there was absolutely no pattern. This struck me as odd. Even with all the variables there should atleast be some noticeable pattern; like when people are at work monday or sunday nite they have to sleep to prepare for monday’s work. However, no pattern at all seemed really peculiar.
#4 – observing the bidders. Here I was looking for any sign of bots. I was able to find what I believed to be bots time and time again. My first notice was when the same names came up. Certain names coming up so often would peak my interest. For weeks on end there would be a certain name that I always saw. Now, what I had previously observed of normal people who keep reappearing at the site is that they tend to get smarter and better with their bids. But, the names I am observing here had appeared just as bad as day 1 even though they are now going into their 2nd or 3rd months. Their bids just did not make sense. They would often come in groups also; like you would always see Bob101 appear when Suzie3 jumped in. Again, no pattern of day or times. This you would also expect of real people; people have patterns.
I still check on Quibids from time to time and spot these discrepencies.
Conclusion:
It is in my professional opinion that Quibids uses bots to keep alive their desired number of auctions.
I also believe from my data that the bots attach to people.
I believe the countdown timer is purposely ending at incorrect numbers.
As for all the rest of the complaints about people not knowing of the initial $60 charge, or that they are spending $0.60 each bid, or that voucher bids did not count, etc: I saw no problem with this. I did find out all the information as a non paying observer.
I would testity in court with all my data, as a computer scientist, that it is in my professional opinion, that Quibids is not an auction; it does have bots, and it does purposely fix the countdown timer to not end correctly.
All that being said, I do believe if I signed up that I would be able to profit off the giftcards alone. However, I do not trust them to actually send the giftcard with the correct value, or to uphold my account without suspending, terminating or incorrectly charging my creditcard.
Great work, this could potentially shut them down and save many people from being defrauded, we need more people fighting evil like you, thank you.
I am so glad to see this. Myself and my daughter have lost thousands of dollars from that site. If you have a declined purchase of bids, they will rebill but not put the bids in your acct? We tested this because from their side it shows up as purchased?…and so if you then go to re-buy bids from say another card etc…you may not know this. Or if you put money into an account etc…so can anyone tell me how join in this suite?
Pretty soon this site will and should go out of business. I’m filing a formal complaint with the BBB on-line, WA state’s Attorney General’s Office and also WA state’s Gambling Commission. Ther problem isn’t loosing money or winning big. I won big on a TV and lost a bid on a DSLR that I ended up buying at the retail price. In the end I came out $400 on top.
The problem legally is that “when you pay for a chance to win” it is gambling. I had never participated in penny auctions till now and realize that it is gambling. So by not declaring that they are breaking the law (Fedral and State).
So I’ll encourage all disillusioned “customers” to file complaints with their state’s AG and with their state’s Gambling Commissions and file complaints on BBB sites. When enough number of complaints are filed the state bureaucracy wakes up and Quibids will get what’s due to them
Anyone that takes $60 for bids when bids are suppose to be 0.60 each at a first time activation is fraud and what they are doing is illegal. Read the top of this page and tell me it isn’t. They never stated that they were going to bill be right away they stated that when I bid I would be charged. I registered and when I saw the bill they made up I almost had a heart attack and deactivated my account. Then I watched for them to take it out of my account. That was my biggest mistake. If it hadn’t been the holiday and I could have gotten hold of my bank to stop it I would have but it was Christmas. I didn’t even have anything I really wanted to bid on. What a SCAM!!! Get real people. I think you work for QuiBids, anyone after the fact can see exactly what they are doing. I should have taken more time to check this site out. I am telling everyone that I see exactly what they are doing. SCAM plain and simple. Oh and I too have sent in a report to BBB everybody should do the same. Oh and I also sent this letter to QuiBids and asked them if I was going to get a refund now, if so to just put it in my account. As soon as I get my money back I want nothing more to do with them EVER!! HUGE MISTAKE that won’t happen again.
Patty
Well, everyone, you’ll be a bit happy to know I did get my money back from this company. How I did it was contacted BBB of Oklahoma (did some research to find the address of QuiBids) put in a complaint. I also copied this article and sent it to QuiBids and told them what they were doing was basically illegal and then BBB contacted them and WALA my money was back in my account. Oh one more thing, it seems there is a new company out there, yep, and… it is so much the same, even the same amounts charged…makes one want to go mmmm????? Anyway, in my opinion they are one in the same so be VERY careful of them as well they are called “Beezid” If I were all of you I’d stay clear of them too. Good luck everyone
Patty
I think its funny that when you click on there list of recently sold items for lets say a $50 bid voucher, there are about 20 of them sitting there that supposedly sold for anywhere between 23 cents and 3 dollars. Then every time you hop in on an auction for one of those same items the bidding keeps going higher and higher into the 15 dollar range. If you are a real person on there the site seems to know it. They must be using bots.
I don’t think they give a shit, everyday I see TV ad’s for these clowns, they just keep rolling in money from dumb-rich americans.
Just discovered that Quibids has charged me for 61 bids I have never made. Stay away from this company. They are a scam operation and will rip you off. Never pay them anything.
Stay away from this company. They are a classic scam artist and ought to be closed down.
WISH I WAS THERE TO GIVE MY PERSONAL” HAHA” so tired of hearing that quibids ad everytime i watch an online video, ” 1 penny could get you a blow job, or a laptop” eff off liars.
what am i seeing? 1 penny blowjobs!!! Am i high right now? Yes, i am told that i am high. How many 60 cent bids will that penny blowjob cost me? BJ= 0.01+(0.60)X oman thats some kinda fraction i can never …. Quibids makes my head hurt.
Oh man am I glad I read through a host of these comments! And all of these complaints are exactly what is going wrong in America these days. I’m fairly young and yet even I can see the abundance of injustice in this country in the scamming that is going on. Missed your cellphone bill? Did they combine next month with your overdue charges with this months bill? Car insurance similar? How about your cable bill? It seems to me that something is seriously wrong when a nation allows it’s own companies to screw the very people they are supposed to provided an honesty service to; the very people that pay them to be able to operate to begin with. Funny how the political system seems to be acting in a similar fashion these days as well. I myself am finding, that I can trust the honesty and integrity of a foreigner’s business over my own country’s business because the former will do whatever it takes to correct a wrong or a misunderstanding while the latter does whatever possible to masquerade the problem! That is utterly disgusting! Now while the majority of us know that American resources are much better than say an Asian counterparts’, are you going to gamble on the often shady business of an American company or might you be more willing to work with the foreigner that will do whatever it takes to make sure you’re satisfied, even with sub-par materials? I am getting rather infuriated with the unjust and unnecessary scamming business practices of my home country’s businesses! It’s stuff like this that has Americans (such as myself, without shame) sending money overseas for a similar product at a lower cost and with a much more clear cut, 9 times out of 10, frustration free business deal. I wouldn’t mind it so much if I were paying a percentage more for the higher cost of manufacturing if only I could trust that my money wasn’t being used for personal gain and unfair, false profit! And to think our uber smart politicians think they can correct what is wrong with America by adjusting corporate gains to favor businesses or just reduce regulations which in turn would probably just give American companies more freedom to act detrimentally. Well what’s the damn point if everyone on the playing field is a lying, deceptive, crook? I swear, it seems like everyone around me who is remaining successful in this economy are, because they have learned to become psychopathic, thieving, deceptive, liars, (-some high on drugs in high demand physical working situations. I’ve seen it myself at C&S Wholesale Grocers, for example). What happened to honesty, loyalty, compassion and the like in my homeland? Oh yeah that’s right, I’m only 23 so I probably shouldn’t know about such things of the past because perhaps I should instead, only desire to watch Jersey Shore on my next biggest brainwashing gadget (I-broke, you program!). *Psss. And people wonder why I want so badly to get the phuk out of here and never look back. (Oh my god, I must be an enemy for speaking my mind! But that, is another story all in it’s own.) What Shame wearing a pretty veil! This doesn’t have to be people, open your damn eyes and wake the phuk up, for the love of all that is good and what we were always taught to be.
So I joined won a few auctions and thought it was great. Then reality set in. Here is the deal, once you win a beginners auction, then you can no longer see them or bid on them. No problem right, I understand that. But here is where it gets scammy. I read through the terms and conditions and it NEVER mentions this small detail. Once you win a few auctions, you are placed into a new category. You no longer see all the auctions, and I’m not talking about just beginners. I made a new account without paying and started seeing all these other auctions for shirts, and jewelry and bids that I wasn’t seeing on my real account. So I did some research.
Here it how it works. At the beginning you have access to all auctions and you are able to easily win an auction. After few won auctions you can only see auctions where bidders loosing hundreds of bids are participating. At that stage you are also loosing money and the items are being won for 30% of the price not like at the beginning for 3%.
The difference in the available auction is enormous. For example for Gift Cards it is 10 times more at the begging then at the later stage when you are assigned to the “suckers” auctions.
They never mention that they begin to limit the number of auctions you can bid on except beginner auctions. This is so tacky. I filed a complaint with the BBB, oh and they also have a class action law suit against them apparently . My advise is to stay away from quibids, I’ve had better luck with bidcactus and ebay LOL
Even the ‘beginner auctions’ where I can’t bid on items while supposedly ‘new members’ can…if you watch close the Quibids employees (or bots) can bid on items yet I get the big red ‘unavailable’ button. I saw people who joined last year bid up the price of items the new members were bidding on yet I couldn’t bid at all on them.
Ever play in a rigged card game?…that’s what this is.
Its not an auction…its a scam.
I signed up for quibids to see what the web site was all about. Quibids took upon themselves to take money out of my accout for a bid package. I did not authorize the with drawal from my account. I believe that quibids is doing business as frauds. I tried to get my money back, using their “money back” grantee. Thst is a fraud statement as well.
QuiBids is a scam. I had to bid to get a refund and noticed two bidders were able to make over 25 bids each for a $10 Walmart Gift Card. According to QuiBids this is impossible because you cannot place more bids than the item is worth. Stay clear!!
i think they should be sued not because people didnt win, but because they falsely advertise about how bids work. on the commercials the ticker drops to zero as the price goes up. but in real life at 10 seconds and below the ticker resets to 10 seconds every time a bid is placed. thats misleading if you asked me. no i wasnt burned or spent a lot of money. i did do a trial and used the free bids. when i figured that out, i said forget it.
September 23rd, 2012 at 2:42 PM
Ok…first things first. Quibids has a decent model and I did pull in sme great products at low prices, but I did start noticing some things they do and have started doing that made me complain to them. Some are pretty blatant and it made me wonder what they are doing we cannot see.
1. I had been using for a few months off and on and I started noticing that every time I went to site, and wasn’t signed in, that I would see items closing with zero bids. One time I thought I was logged on and clicked one bid before it expired, but it prompted me to log in. When I logged on I went to recently completed auctions and could not find the zero bid auctions anywhere. After that I started seeing big ticket items going cheap before I logged on and I couldn’t find them either after logging in. I believe this is called bait and switch.
2. They just started this new multi auction crap that has you bidding on multiple items instead of the one you want. This means I am bidding against multiple people for multiple products, all with different motivations for spending bids. It’s hard enough to go into a one item auction and win it, but now I have to waste bids against people chasing a different product. That’s what I meant by a different motivation…. They have a cool format and they make a ton of money, but now they are already starting to get greedy. This is the worst idea I’ve ever seen for people looking for specific products to bid on.
3. I was using the multi bid function and my daughter hit the home page key while I was on auto bid feature. I immediately hit the back button, but I got a blank screen. I then went back to home page to find the product I was bidding on, but it was not showing. What was showing was one of the other similar priced products that was rotating. This means I had to guess and click on each product I thought was similarly priced until I found my original product. Needless to say I lost in that time frame. 100 bids gone and it somehow sold within 10 bids of when my daughter hit the back button. Worst idea ever to blend multiple products in a single auction. I sent them an idea that would allow you the option of choosing from several same priced items after you already won, but got nothing.
I started to think that if they are doing sketchy things on the front end, what are they doing on the back end? I went to the Oklahoma chamber of commerce, where they are located, and they have well over a thousand complaints after only a few years in biz.
You are absolutely right Jason, I was playing at this site today. I had just won an auction, i had several auctions saved to my watch list perhaps 15 auctions taking place simultaneously, as soon as i won, the page refreshed it self and my watch list was reduced by more than 2/3rds. I was not able to find all the auctions i had been watching for several minutes. They were gone! In other words, i believe i won to many auctions and now they have limited what i can see and bid on. Before today i could click on and save several active auction items to my watch list, usually about 15 to 20 items would become active and available to bid on in less than 20 to 30 minutes during the afternoon if not more. After today maybe 5 items are available for me to bid on in 20 minutes time.
I wrote to the site and complained and asked why I was being limited to what auctions I can see and bid on. Here are some terms of use below. Read carefully before you join!!!!! Because once start winning to much make no mistake they can limit the auctions you can see and bid on.
“Qxxxxx attempts to limit some auctions to users of comparable skill, as determined by Qxxxxxx, to enhance user experience and maintain a viable business model. In so doing, Qxxxxxx may limit which auctions are available to particular users based on any factors deemed appropriate by Qxxxxxx in its sole discretion, including experience of the user, historical success of the user, demographic factors, prior bidding and spending activity, and other factors. In particular, Qxxxxxx may limit certain auctions to less experienced or successful users in any manner Qxxxxxx deems appropriate to optimize the overall user experience of all Qxxxxxx users. You acknowledge that You may be, and You consent to being, excluded from auctions at Qxxxxxx discretion. ”
Now how is limiting auctions to me optimizing my overall user experience? And I do not recall seeing the above statement when I joined. Advise ? Do not invest in to many bids at once or you will be stuck using them on auctions near impossible to win once they limit what you can see and bid on, like I have. I am stuck with over 3000 bids and they will not refund. Please do not get put into the position I now find myself in. I now feel like such a sucker. Doesn’t this sound like just bad business?
Any legal advise will be very much appreciated.
I went to the Quibids website the first time I heard about it. What struck me odd was that you had to “purchase” bid “packs” even before you could “bid” on merchandise. First of all, any process that asks you for your money up-front should be suspect. Second, and this is technical: the fact that QuiBids works through a web browser which is subject to inconsistent configuration, network connection anomalies, and differences in how browsers interpret timing as a result of the multitude of network issues is something to be highly concerned with when there is a “bidding process” that is time-critical. Finally, a true bidding process, such as an auction, does not require the participants to make leveraged bids that have cost them money up-front. In a legitimate auction process only the bidder with the last and highest bid before a final bid is announced actually wins and is therefore responsible to pay. While one can argue that requiring bidders to buy a “bid pack” is a form of making the QuiBids website viable in terms of its operating costs – after all it does cost money to run such a site and all the back-end systems that are involved – doing so changes what should be a “bidding” process into a gambling process because in a true bidding process only the winner pays while in a gambling process all participants loose money whether or not they ultimately win. For that reason I have stayed away from QuiBids.com and recommend anyone else do the same unless they have a wad of cash that’s burning a hole in their pocket, in which case then, call me instead as I can surely use the loot !
They claim they don’t use bots or shills but that is a flat out lie!
This site is everything that is wrong with the current state of our country. As citizens we are supposed to be protected from criminal activity like this once it has been identified, but the fact is that these “dutch penny auctions” have been illegal in all other first world countries since the 19th century. Unfortunately our government has failed us as citizens in this one, but thank goodness someone is going after them. ESPN still lets these degenerates advertise with them. As long as our hard earned money lines the pockets of the right people companies like this will be allowed to skate by without any oversight for years. Maybe you’re not fond of govt regulation but I’m pretty tired of seeing our prisons fill up with everyone but these financial schemers that pray on the everyday middle class folks. Take quibids down as it is a disgusting black mark on our great country.
I tried quebid and bought bids. I then sarted to bid. When the clock went to zero, it quickly came back to 10 seconds or it had someone else winning. After $300.00, I realized it was a scam and stopped. I think they bid themselves to keep the amount up. If you do purchase a whatever, you should consider how many bids you had to purchase for $.60 each. A rip off.
Two weeks later, my banks fraud company called me and said there were fraudulant charges on my account. If you use this site, watch your accounts carefully.
It is definitely online gambling, it is illegal.
Not that users have done anything wrong – users are unknowing victims. Two problems: The method to “win” is largely based on chance (timing, site traffic, things the consumer is not aware of).
And second, that they obviously have lots of things going on behind the scene making it non-transparent (“watched” auctions disappearing, apparently the prevention of users from winning more than one auction, false auctions saying there are zero bids when in fact there are several bids once you log in, shill & bot bidding, etc).
There is a cloud of dishonesty throughout the whole site, and no transparency. If there’s any justice, the law suit will go forward, and they will get shut down by feds.
Quibids is definitely a company that will scam you out of your money. The way they do it is by making you think you’re going to win a bunch of high dollar items for .99 cents. You won’t. I’ve played on Quibids and it is nearly impossible to win anything. You will definitely lose more money than you get back. They are professional swindlers and should be ashamed.
http://www.quibids-the-scam.com will tell you all about them.
Stay away from Quibids!!!
I recently read all the instructions but nowhere did I see I was not getting a penny for a penny. I was dumbfounded when I was told I did not win, lost all $60 and then was given the ‘opportunity’ to spend another $30 to receive 90 kcups. I e-mailed back and forth and still did not get an true answer. They should be held accountable!
Really folks you sit on your ass knowing exactly what your getting into and you want to sue. Learn to read its as clear as day, if you want to join you got to pay a min package, if you want to play you got to pay, and if you don’t get that wet dream, I-pod, or Camara then you lost the auction, try again or take a hike. Plus if you want the item that bad then get it at the reduced price. Please why don’t you go sue MacDonald’s of Burger King for selling you burgers that don’t look anything like what is on the pictures? Get a life and get over it, you lost your money don’t play again you dreamer, get a job and pay full price at the store! It’s called and auction and you have to pay to play those are the rules, read it and move on if you don’t like it. Bunch or cry babies, well the Government said no suit, I hope you idiots got sued back for the waste of or governments time. Why don’t you go back to every wishing well and take back your pennies, quarters, or nickels you thrown in it making a wish you never got, better yet sue the well maker, or business, or city who built it or installed it. Bunch of whiners and bottom line stupid idiots!